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How France Prepared for Trump | Insights from If You're Listening Podcast by ABC In-depth

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Discover how France spent decades preparing for Trump on the If You're Listening podcast by ABC In-depth. Explore insights on election night coverage and the efficiency of German political events.
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One of the things that sucks about election night coverage pretty much everywhere
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is this bit.
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So we should be hearing from the Prime Minister pretty soon.
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Obviously we're still waiting to hear from Kamala Harris.
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It's the bit where the result seems pretty clear
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but you've got to wait around for ages until the leaders do their speeches.
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And we're waiting to see John Trump appear himself
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and that's obviously what the crowd there are waiting to see.
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Well this bit doesn't happen in Germany.
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All this waiting around is way too inefficient for the Germans.
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They bring all the party leaders into one room at 8 o'clock on election night
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and make them answer questions about the race.
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Good evening.
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Good evening.
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Good evening everyone.
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When this chat was underway during the election just last month
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it was pretty clear that opposition leader Friedrich Merz
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was going to be the next chancellor.
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And he decided to start his transition into office with a bang.
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Union will have absolute priority for me as soon as possible.
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He says my absolute priority will be to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible
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so that step by step we can really achieve independence from the USA.
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It's clear that the Trump administration is largely indifferent to the fate of Europe.
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People were stunned.
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Usually a German leader needs to be at least three schnapps deep
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before they start heckling their most important security partner.
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But Germany could no longer afford to ignore Trump's actions since taking office.
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forcing Ukraine to agree to a ceasefire, threatening to annex Greenland,
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and saying that US allies have to pay up if they want US protection.
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No, I won't protect if you're not paying.
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If you're delinquent or if the money isn't paid, why would we do that?
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One person who would not have been surprised at all by what Trump is doing
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is the French statesman Charles de Gaulle.
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The dominant figure in 20th century French politics,
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de Gaulle thought it was only a matter of time before America would become, as the Chancellor says,
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indifferent to the fate of Europe.
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Now, America's allies are calling France and asking two questions.
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One, how did you see this coming?
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And two, can you protect us from a rising Russia and China if America won't?
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I'm interested in finding answers to these questions too.
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I'm Matt Bevan, and this is If You're Listening.
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This is the sound of desperation.
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It was mid-1940 and German forces were at the gates of Paris, and the French Prime Minister
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Paul Reynaud took to the airwaves to beg America for help.
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He had already failed in his attempt to get the US to join the war against Germany, and
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now he was begging for a cloud of planes.
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to be sent to stop the Nazis.
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The suffering is the pride of the land.
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Planes had been promised, but they weren't ready in time.
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America would not save France.
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