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- Talk Vietnam - Larry Berman và Điệp viên hoàn hảo Phạm Xuân Ẩn
Talk Vietnam - Larry Berman và Điệp viên hoàn hảo Phạm Xuân Ẩn
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Phap Xuan Anh, a name that concealed so many secrets, not only from the Vietnamese people,
but also from foreign politicians and reporters, especially the US press.
So many things had remained unanswered.
unexplained until an American stepped in.
Larry Berman, a historian and professor at the University of California, and an expert
on the American war in Vietnam.
The intriguing yet dangerous life of Pham Tuan Anh, or X6 under the H63 intelligence
network, is portrayed truthfully and vividly in the book, Perfect Spy, authored by Larry
Berman and published in the US in 2007
he was a spy like no other respected by both sides friends and enemies alike his
story told six years ago in a book written by Larry Berman American
historian shocked and surprised the US reading public we're talking about the
Vietnamese legendary intelligence officer mr. fat son and now six years
Just after the publication of this book entitled, Perfect Spy, Larry Berman was back here in
order to release an updated version to reveal unknown information about the extraordinary
life of Mr. Pham Son Nen.
We're very lucky to have Larry in our studio today to talk more about the updated version
as a tribute to Mr. Pham Son Nen and also as a tribute to his lifetime desire for post-war
reconciliation between Vietnam and the United States.
Thank you for joining us on Talk Vietnam.
How are you?
I'm fine.
I'm delighted to be here.
Thank you for taking the time to come.
Congratulations on being able to update a new version to Perfect Spy.
Can you share with us, first of all, what are some of the updates that make it different
from the first version?
Well, there are several kinds of updates.
First I wrote a brand new preface to the book in which I offer many new reflections.
When I was interviewing on the first time, he would tell me, you can't put this in a
book while I'm still alive.
And unfortunately, he passed away just before the first edition was published.
So I had, but I had no chance to include those stories and those reflections.
So I was able to use many of them in this edition.
And of course, the most important thing is that there is a word for word Vietnamese translation
approach the story of Bap Suh-nan from the very beginning?
And this was 2000 and...
This was 2000 and I say, hi, Larry Berman.
And he says back to me, Pham Su Nan, he goes, where are you from?
I said, I'm from California.
And he says, California.
I spent two years in California.
They were the happiest years of my life.
And he sat down and for the next five hours, we just spoke to each other about everything.
And the next day he invited me to come to his home, but I was supposed to go to Cambodia
the next day.
And that night I made a decision not to go to Cambodia and postponed my entire trip.
And I spent the next seven days with Pham Suan Anh every day.
We met at Jivral and we talked and talked, and our friendship began then.
But he kept saying, no, you can't write the book, you can't write the book, I have too many secrets.