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Warwick Powell - U.S., China, Tariff Wars, and Multipolarity | Ep 427, Apr 10, 2025

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U.S., China, Tariff Wars, and Multipolarity Conversations on Groong - April 10, 2025 Topics * U.S. Tariff Wars * Target: Iran * The Global South * The Belt and Road Initiative Guest * Warwick Powell - TW/@baoshaoshan Hosts * Hovik Manucharyan - TW/@HovikYerevan * Asbed Bedrossian - TW/@qubriq Episode 427 | Recorded: April 6, 2025 https://podcasts.groong.org/427
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Hello everyone, and welcome to this Conversations on Groomg episode.
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Today, we're going to be talking about China on the world stage.
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At a time when the U.S. is initiating tariff wars with everyone, including friendly countries,
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we're going to explore what really is driving this tariff regime and what it means for the U.S.-China relationship.
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So today we're talking with Professor Warwick Powell from the University of Queensland in Australia,
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and also the Taihe Institute in Beijing.
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Professor Warwick Powell, welcome to the show.
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It's great to be with you both.
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Welcome, Professor Powell.
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So, Professor, you...
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you describe your work to be, quote,
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at the intersection of digital innovation and technologies
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and international political economy, unquote.
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And you have a particular interest
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in the place of China in the future
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of international economics, political, and social systems.
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As this is your first time on our show,
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please tell us a little bit about your work
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and how you came to focus on China
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and its place in a changing landscape of geopolitics
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and technological innovation.
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Sure, I'll do my best. It's a big topic, but hopefully I can give a reasonably succinct
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overview of the sorts of things that have interested me over many years and which
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provide the focal points for the work that I do from a research and an education point of view.
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My interest in China, of course, go back many decades now to the time when I did my undergraduate
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work and then into my first phases of postgraduate life and then eventually working in government in
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Australia where China was emerging in the early 1990s as a
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very significant part of the region. And so it was important
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for Australia, Australian governments, enterprises and
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other forms of organisations to develop a better understanding
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of what was happening in China, which suited me perfectly fine,
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because I had a background in that arena. And, and of course,
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I have my own personal and family interest in in the world of China as well.
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I'm from Hong Kong originally.
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And whilst I've been in Australia most of my life, I still have many family
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members and friends all through southern China, Hong Kong, Macau
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and those sorts of places.
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My work has, as you mentioned, looks at the intersection of a number of things.
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One is the role of China.
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The other one is global geopolitical economy, which aims to provide a macro context for
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how China may or may not fit into the dynamics of the world.
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And as we drill further into a place and how it connects with other places, I'm interested
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in supply chain interconnections and ultimately the technologies that enable enterprises to
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interact with each other.
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and that's where we start to touch on the digital dimensions,
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whether they are digital infrastructure to enable data about supply chains
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to be captured and shared,
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or whether they are digital infrastructure to support
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the future of transnational payment systems.
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So in some ways, you could think of it as a layered cake.
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